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Posted - 2013.09.13 07:21:00 -
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Sid Hudgens wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Except that a GM is unlikely to confirm the identity of a scammers main. Somewhere in this thread I'm fairly sure we were told, by a CCP representative, that they can't verify alts and mains because there is no ingame way to do so (actually there is, but a GM said that there isn't, so I'm actually lying here  ) edit - the exact text GM Karidor wrote:What needs to be kept in mind regarding impersonations is that all characters involved are seen as their own, independent entity, which effectively means it's quite possible that a situation may appear where a player impersonates his trustworthy main character using an alt character located on the same account. As there is no in-game way to verify whether or not certain characters are located on the same account (the API needs the key and external tools to be read properly, so that one doesn't count here), this case would be handled the very same way as the impersonator character being owned by another player. Yes, that is actually my entire point! If a GM treated the "I'm Joe's alt" scam differently because that character really is Joe's alt then he is essentially confirming the identity of the scammer's main. I would be willing to bet that GMs are constrained by CCP policy to never confirm if one character is an alt of another and therefore have no choice but to treat each character as an "independent entity" in order to avoid confirming that information.
Therein lies a fundamental flaw in policy.
The only real way to resolve it is either to make impersonating or claiming to represent other characters or groups, even ones you own, against the rules, or it would be to make impersonating or claiming to represent other characters or groups fine and allowed as long as it's within legitimate game mechanics.
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Posted - 2013.09.13 08:49:00 -
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Except by banning you (the alt) the GMs have made a specific determination that you are not the same person who is in control of the character(s) you were claiming to represent.
If they choose to enforce the rule in this manner, it would then mean that banning both accounts is a specific determination by the GMs that you are the same person in control of both accounts.
They've explicitly stated that they cannot make this determination.
The rule is thus unenforceable, because to avoid making any determination GMs will either have to completely ignore the rule to begin with, or they will have to ban both accounts in all cases which means that anyone in this game can now pretty easily get anyone else banned.
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